Sublocade - A New Kind Of Suboxone (Page 3)

So there's a new kind of SUBOXONE out and it's called SUBLOCADE. It's a once a month injection done by a medical professional that lasts ALL month. So no more having to take it sublingually (under the tongue) daily anymore. I just found out about this last week and was wanting anyone's input about it. I don't know how I feel about it. What if it doesn't work ALL month and on week 3 you start feeling like s***? Can you go back to the doctor and get another shot or will they just give you a couple sublingual suboxone to make it through till the next week? I guess it's a pretty big dissolvable thing that slowly releases about 2mg a day into your bloodstream. Once again, I'm not sure how i feel about that. What if something happens and it ALL gets released at once? I'm sure that's bound to happen once every so often. Do please write back letting me know how you guys feel about this, or if you have any new info that I'm leaving out. Thank you.

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Re: Addixn Doc (# 39)

I guess I'm influenced by the negative Sublocade reviews I've read online as there are quite a few. My doctor has assured me that every patient she has on Sublocade is doing very well. I will most likely end up trying it.
I have some fear related to not taking daily sublingual Subutex, which I realize is part of my addiction. Thank you for the reply.

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I just started sublocade a few days ago. The only trouble I am having is the mental part of addiction. Trying different things to get through that bit it seems to be keeping me from being ill. I heard most people have found their "groove" of being comfortable after the first 4 or 5 days. This is my day 3 so I hope to only feel better from here. I do have headaches and sleepiness but if I get up and get moving both subside. I think it's definitely something you have to mentally prepare for and really want to do for the full benefits. I hope this helps. Here is to freedom from these drugs once and for all....!

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Hi, Everyone! It's been a while since I last posted any updates with my experience, thoughts & feelings with My Sublocade injections. It's now January 2019 & I've had approximately 4 or 5 injections thus far. As some of you know, I was so hesitant & full of fear pre Sublocade. Fast forward to today & in all the injections & time in between I last posted, I have absolutely NO complaints! After I got through that initial 1 to 2 months, everything has been just fine. The Pros of Sublocade certainly outweigh the Cons. It's well worth it y'all!

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Re: Sarah (# 42)

Hi, Sarah

You should be very proud of yourself for having the strength & determination of making that choice to switch to Sublocade! That's such a huge deal to addicts like you & I. I've been exactly where you are right this moment both mentally & physically and let me tell ya, it isn't easy at first but I can assure you, without a doubt that it does get better. Everything you're experiencing right now is normal & it's temporary. You will start to feel much better soon. Just know that when you do start to feel better & your body & mind has gotten accustomed to the change of Sublocade, it will be great thing. Much more convenient. You'll see & you'll be glad you made that decision to switch to Sublocade. Keep us posted. I'm interested in your thoughts & feelings as you get thru this as I'm right there going thru the same journey. Take Care.

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Re: RAWDOG (# 9)

It's not administered intravenously. It's subcutaneous... a liquid that turns into a gel. Also, the company indicates that it's equal to 12 - 24 mg per day, depending whether you're on the 300mg or 100mg injection. Sublocade being equal to 2mg per day of buprenorphine is false. Your post is old, so you've probably learned more about it by now. I'm on Sublocade and think it's the future of addiction medicine.

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Sublocade for me, worked very well with very minimal side effects & the ones I experienced were mental, not physical. For example, when you are accustomed to putting medication in your mouth on a daily basis for long periods of time, and all of a sudden there's no longer any need for that as this is an injection given in your stomach area. To sum it up.... It was a wise choice for me & helped me tremendously. If given a choice, I'd choose Sublocade opposed to Suboxone or Subutex any day.

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Re: Addixn Doc (# 39)

I ended up getting the Sublocade injection, and it has been absolutely wonderful. I'm two weeks into my third shot (100mg) and cannot imagine going back to sublingual buprenorphine. The transition couldn't have been any smoother, there are no ups and downs with this med, I now sleep so much better at night, and it's a great relief not having to deal with the pharmacy every month as they were often out of buprenorphine. Also, the shot is virtually painless (lidocaine is used) and a very quick process. If anyone out there is considering Sublocade, I urge you to try it!

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Does Sublocade block opiates? Or does it only partially block?

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Re: Kimberly123 (# 44)

I know this is an old board, but I am making the change today and am scared. How much suboxone were you on before the switch if you don’t mind me asking?

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Re: pjmasks12 (# 49)

I was only taking 1 8.2 mg. strip. You will be fine. I was very anxious also about switching, but believe me when I tell you.... it's well worth it. The pros certainly outweigh the cons.

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So I got my first injection Thursday evening. It feels different. Obviously. But my question is for anyone, if you eat can you like feel the sun in your system? I have been a little queezy these first few days, like the very very beginning of withdrawal, nothing I can’t handle. But I have noticed if I eat something it feels like I just dosed. I get that little burst of energy, if I’m sitting down I start getting drowsy, and that gut feeling of anxiety goes away. I said something to my husband about it and he looked at me like I was insane. But that would make a little sense right? Like once I get my metabolism pumping after eating, maybe? Lol. It very well could be all in my head too.

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Anyone know of any doctors that for sure offer the Sublocade shot in the Nashville, TN area?

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Re: MT (# 19)

I have been on suboxone film strips 2 mg for around 12 years. Same dose always 1x a day and i had told my doctor i wanted to try and come off. He suggested sublocade. I had my 1st 100 mg shot 45 days ago and my 2nd 100 mg shot 2 weeks ago. Tjere are definitely side effect(lumps under skin at injection site and extreme fatigue) not sure when is the right time to make the final jump but i think this will be my last shot as i am dying to get off this awful drug

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Re: Kimberly 123 (# 26)

Yes verybpainful and the lump has lasted 45 days so far

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Re: RAWDOG (# 9)

Its injected in your stomach

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Just got the shot few hours ago.. wish me luck update on how it goes.. was on 2 8 mg strips a day and 2 mg in afternoon..

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Don't worry, it can't get released all at once, the medicine is liquid and becomes a hard "depot" that gradually dissolves. It won't wear off too soon, in fact its more likely to last well beyond the 28 days. (Up to 6 weeks or longer even. I read that Sublocade was meant to last way past the 28 days so that it would be rare to feel sick early, for the people who miss appointments for whatever reason. It was designed to last plenty longer than 28 days. I have seen people experience this with the Vivitrol shot, where it doesn't last the full month and cravings come back causing relapse. That's another story, another discussion, but we typically give naltrexone pills along with vivitrol to take at the end if cravings come before the next shot). I work in a detox and have seen tons of people successfully get off heroin and fentanyl because of sublocade. I think I'd say only 1 in over approx 100 said it didn't work and I know now that person didn't want to get clean yet (she self admitted it in her admission a few months later) and I've seen many others go days past their 28 day mark and not get sick. I personally haven't seen anyone feel sick too early, if anything a small number (if I have to guess, maybe 5 in 100?) that needed a small 2-4mg suboxone film dose in the first few days or weeks of the FIRST month only, by the 2nd months shot they are feeling better because the medicine has built to a stable level. This is usually only people that have been on Suboxone for a long time and their body is used to much higher levels of suboxone, not people who haven't already been on long term suboxone. People coming off street drugs that just start suboxone for a few days then get the shot are usually fine because they aren't used to having high doses of suboxone in their system. Typically in our detox, a client will detox with methadone for a few days...(because of the fear of precip most people can't wait the necessary time between fentanyl use and starting suboxone.. it used to be approx. 36 hours from last heroin use, but now with fentanyl in everything people are waiting over 48 hours and still going into precip. If someone could physically wait 48hrs+ without medication, they wouldn't need detox in the first place! Its painful to watch so we've adjusted our detox protocols accordingly. Its physically easier on them to wait from the methadone - or even from straight heroin when that still existed! - than waiting after fentanyl use because fentanyl withdrawal is so bad and happens so much sooner after last use. Fentanyl is meant for short term use, like after surgery, so when people use it for long periods of time it ends up stored in the body in fat cells and there is no single average of time to predict its out of someones system) So, after a few days and small doses of methadone, they wait 48 hours, then take a 2mg test dose of suboxone or subutex just to make sure they don't go into precipatative withdrawal, and if they don't we will build them up to 8-12mg a day for a few days before giving the shot (they say to take it for 7 days before getting the shot, but if a person already has past experience with suboxone and they know it worked for them and that they aren't allergic, then there's no need to wait longer, just long enough that we know the fentanyl is out of their system so we don't put them into precip). I saw one comment about the guy who got his shot 24 hrs from last opioid use. That only way to get someone out of precip besides time and waiting it out is to give more suboxone to force the opioids off the receptors. It sounds counterintuitive but it works... or speeds up the discomfort period anyway. Either the doctor had no clue what he was doing, or in my experience people can lie or even forget when their last use was. Hopefully some of this insight helps people who are curious about the how and why of sublocade. You just have to remember that every body metabolizes medicine differently so one person's experience won't necessarily be yours. If you read the reviews, they are mostly positive, and you have to also consider that in recovery, people may say negative things because they personally weren't ready to get sober. (Like my one experience of the client that said sublocade wasn't working and she still felt like shit and later admitted she just wanted to use) Sublocade also has the benefit of coming out of your system sooo gradually that there isn't the typical withdrawal associated with stopping suboxone. Just wait until you are ready and in a good position to do so. Also, you break the habit of having to take a medication every day just to feel normal. Nothing is a 100% miracle cure, maybe Sublocade is 99% but you still need the other 1% to be your own will to change! ;) good luck to everyone starting their sublocade journey!

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Re: RAWDOG (# 9)

Sublocade does NOT GO INTO VEINS! That would kill you. It is a liquid that hardens to a solid mass when it touches body fluids.. It goes into your fat in your stomach.. under your skin.. (Subcutaneous)

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Re: Subutex4 (# 11)

Subutex4:
Sublocade can help ween you off suboxone/subutex so that you can do those things again! Its the most painless way to taper off of any form of BUPRENORPHINE...

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Re: jainnpain (# 17)

Well Sublocade isn't so "new" anymore... its been 4 years since your post... I hope people are seeing how beneficial it has been. For people with opiod substance abuse disorders it has been a life saver!

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