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My son had a terrible experience on wyvance. He has phyciatic systems to include halluciations. The doctor took him off the drup cold turkey and Ihe seems to be having withdrawal systems? Is that normal?

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I took Vyvanse for 4 years and I choose to quit. I will never touch it again. I strongly encourage you and all people everywhere to get your freedom from Vyvanse and I mean permanently. I smashed a very good paid for BMW and my marriage to bits because of Vyvase. Only 40 mg a day of it turned me from a very sweet lady with ADD into a very unhappy woman. It gave me anxiety so bad that I was unfit to drive and had chest pains severe enough to call 911 on 2 occasions. My decision to live with ADD without Vyvanse has me healthy and happy. I'm functional with ADD, but I wasn't functioning right at all on the Vyvanse. My marriage is saved.I have another fine car. I will have a good life with no Vyvase in the picture. Psalm 40 to those who are suffering. Pray and get your freedom!

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I do treat children and adolescents, but I don't think I've ever written for stimulants for 5-year olds. Regardless of the PI, most of us don't feel comfortable with this, even though research goes back and forth about how dangerous stimulant prescribing is at what age. Now for the good news: there are no palpable physical withdrawal symptoms from amphetamines, unless the pt has been taking a HUGE dose. (My guess is the equivalent of 200mg of d-amphetamine daily, but bootleg street methamphetamine can contain much more and we've all known patients who were brought in DOA for this very reason.) You think everyone knows the danger of Vynase? Guess again. This month, I had three well-educated patients (a h.s. principal, a teacher and a Fulbright scholar grad student) who couldn't have faked their responses when I asked, "Do you know what Dexedrine or d-amphetamkine is? Well, Vynase is nothing but Dexedrine designed to make you think it;s not as dangerous. One patient;s anxiety stemmed from not enough Xanax prescribed along with the Vynase. WE did a work up for ADD/ADHD in Adults. I couldn't conclude reasonable that he actually had adult ADD, so we tapered the Vynase, tapered the Xanax and did that ild standby watchful waiting. He did have significant symptoms of ADD/ADHD, so I switched the medication to Ritalin (that was WAY strong enough) and the benzo to Klonopin. That worked, too. Every good pediatrician (and I mean anyone who treats young kids) has to remember the first line of the Hippocratic Oath: "First, do not harm." I have no problem calling in pediatric neurologists or ace pediatricians (Chief of NICU at our hospitals) when necessary. Yes, I'm quite intelligent, but this doesn't make me too arrogant to call in the troops when needed. I have an excellent bedside manner, but when dealing with patients who lie, dissemble, etc., in order to "get me to write for" Valium, opiates (ridiculous; if I write one opiate script a month, that means one of my its were in the "Reg" [as opposed to Psych] ED, an stimulants. My prove practice is located in a very affluent area, which means people come in who think they can pay cash and I'lll take dictation. After all, any computer-savvy patient (or any exec with a computer-lit asst; i do) can find checklists for ADD/ADHD — questions and "answers". I"m supposed to be civil to someone who thinks for double my fee, I work for him? NFW! I tell them they have confused me with Dr. Feelgood, please pay me for the session and you do not have ADD, ADHD or any perceptible focusing disorder. I had used my Dad's Rx blanks to develop one hell of a REAL (Seconal, Nembutal, Doriden, Tuinal), amphetamine (Desoyxn - methamphetamine) and opiate (Dilaudid and Oxycodone) dependency. A couple of MY friends, who also were docs' kids, saw the writing on the wall and went to my parents. The boy who became my boyfriend said, "I care too much about you to let this continue to its inevitable ending; this isn't a Tennessee Williams' play; it's life" I got the help I needed and avoided AA/NA Cultists. However, I agree that we recovered addicts should pay it forward, so I do handle some of our drug cases and I pretty much had open access to drugs. I used all the tricks of the day — different pharmacists; having names of other patients on the scripts; using other family members' names, etc. All specialists prescribe like Fps to their families. I write for Oxycodone 10/APAP 300 for my attorney sister's migraines. Nothing else works and if she uses a months supply in a half-year, that's fine, You HAVE to be tough with real addicts, although I insist all personnel treat them with respect. Most of my colleagues like me, but all of them respect me as a physician and an administrator. I've even had early 20s pats whom I treated as teens come to visit in my office. One said: "Just wanna tell you I"m clean, Doc, and I"m sorry for being a Hellion from the Pit. I really didn't mean all that s*** I said to you. You're a good guy and you have BALLS, man. 19 or not, you called my Mom. [His Mom is the toughest /charge Nurse I've ever known; she's an NP and dragged the kid in to the hospital lab for the most extensive drug scan I've ever seen.] I'm finishing community college and going on to a four-year school. I have nice girlfriend whom I've told just enough about my former life. Thanks again, Dr. Joey. Another cool thing — you're the only doc who lets us call them by their first name." He tried every dope-fiending tactic I've ever read about or head about and I "blocked" every time. What I don't like is posters parading their ignorance or feigned ignorance and those who are looking for $$$ FOR PILLS docs to write for or dispense Xanax and Methadone — a classic cocktail of abuse.

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Was he on adderal befor the new drug? Maybe its w/drawals from that.

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i have been taking vyvanse for about a year and have some of the side effects talked about such as aggetation,weight loss, dry mouth i would suggest excersise while taking the drug. first of all it helps your body burn the drug and also is a great release for stress which i found adds to the aggetation of the drug. for me the advantages out weigh the side effects. it seems as though as long as i stay busy i have no problems so, i only take the drug when i know i am going to have a very busy and stressful day because those are the days i need it i do not take it on the days i am doing nothing because it is not hard to focus on TV. I think the drug works. i would suggest to use it in a different way because the drug does not have to be in your system for a period of time for it to work it works shortley after you take it and maybe if your body dosen't need it that day it has adverse effects. this is just the way i use it it has really helped me.

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So, everyone knows the dangers of Vyvanse. Right? Maybe drug seekers and stone abusers like the jerk who took enough to blow out his Aortic Valve. It's's equally obvious that no one is paying attention. You don't know nearly as much about CNS stims as I do. I've participated in research studies with them and THOSE are not featured in National Inquirer headlines but articles published in Peer-Reviewed Medical Journals. I had an English professor friend run some of my posts through a readability checker and the average reading level is around 11-to-12th grade. If you want to be talked down to, pick up the Journal of Clinical Oncology. (I think I remembered the title correctly.)

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@panicmom: Vyvanse has ruined my LIFE. My doc doesn't believe me and now thinks I must not have ever had add or probs like that at all, since I was admitted to the E.R. after a major panic attack. (I thought I was having a heart attack/stroke or dying.) Since that time, I have had many close calls and have been disoriented/confused. I've experienced a lot of derealization (if you google this, it lists symptoms.) Vyvanse is horrible. I've always had a bit of anxiety & I exercise regularly. After seeing that I had most OVERDOSE symptoms on 40-50mg, I stopped cold turkey. Don't know how much longer I can make it, but do not want this drug to kill me over.

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Sadly the medicine is very addictive and has serious side effects when taking it and trying to quit. There is hope. My adult daughter was taking it for about a year also and experienced a 100% change in what was a very normal and prosperous life. Until January 1, 2011, we received a call from the Hospital 900 miles away. She was in critical condition due to the drug. We drove for 22 hours straight. Could not get a flight fast enough. 5 months later she is just starting to work her way back into the real world again. The anger, anxiety, and depression still exist. She was a vibrant, healthy, and successful young lady all destroyed by our so called Dr's who would rather make money by pushing the drug than to face reality. Sadly it will take many more cases like ours and yours before anyone will make a change. Good luck to you. The longer you wait to go through the side affects of quitting, the longer you will experience the pain of withdrawal. The only thing that helped us get through the most horrible periods was a drug called xanax.

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I am 32 and just began taking vyvance. The reason we chose this drug in particular was because of its lack of withdrawal symptoms. If you run out there are no drug seeking tendencies. Are you certian your son was taking only the daily dose and not more? This is a fair question as this could certainly lead to the withdrawal. Vyvance is the best ADD med out their right now. It just needs to me amnistered by a responsible parent/adult. I've had great results with it and hoep that you will too. Good luck.

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