Abuse Deterrent Xtampza Vs. Oxycontin (Top voted first)

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Newly FDA approved Xtampza ER has a different abuse deterent additive than Oxycontin, however I have not tried it yet for effectiveness. I have taken Oxycontin over 10 years so I felt the huge difference when they began adding abuse additive to it. I am curious if anyone has info on this new med, how it works as compared to Oxycontin, or all info on it that may help me decide if I should switch? I always had excellent results with Oxycontin but when the abuse stuff was started it took so much away from effectiveness. Appreciate any info. Thanks.

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I am on 36mg Xtampza and they suck. Never get the relief, never feel good enough to work. Not a great pain killer! Takes forever to release and never does get to even touch my pain level. I was on Oxy 80's and 30's for 10 years and my doctors office got closed down by the s***ty uncaring DEA and this is all anyone will prescribe me! My life is hell and ruined! I cannot work and barely am functioning as a human being! It sucks, that's all I can say!! The DEA has ruined many lives and put many people in the street who are now doing illicit drugs! Good move *****s!! WTG!!

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I take it with a full meal doesn't matter what it is, but I noticed that with fried foods or fast food that it works much better. Cottage cheese 4% fat works, buttered toast, and Ensure. I'm going to try half and half milk which has a high fat content because I cannot continue to eat fried foods three times a day. Also I like oxycontin better and will be going back to that next month. Remember every one reacts differently to all medication.

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I've been on several different meds and xtampza er seems to work great. I do have to eat it with a whole milk product. (i.e. Yogurt cottage cheese) I do have to wait around an hour before it works but the pain relief is equal to the OxyContin I was taking. If the OxyContin works then this should too. It just takes a little more perseverance. I break capsules apart and put on yogurt to eat. Hope you get your pain under control. It is a shame that so many addicts have caused a world of suffering for those of us in true pain

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Why mess with something that at this stage works? I have been reduced by 1/3 on dose. Now attempting to switch by doctors orders. Very much an attempt to get government happy and nothing to do with my pain. We're all experiments.

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Hello, Lynx! How are you?

I was reading about it, after seeing your post, but they only list their deterrent under a proprietary name and do not list any specific details on how it works.

However, they do say that, if needed, the capsules can be opened and the beads can be sprinkled into food, if someone has trouble swallowing them and that they can also be opened to administer the beads through a feeding a tube.

It contains Oxycodone, just like Oxycontin, and is also time released. Thus, the FDA warns that it carries the risk of being habit forming and may cause similar side effects, such as nausea, dizziness, headache, dry mouth and constipation.

Does anyone else know more?

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You must be high to say they work the same!! Delivery is so slow. My pain is never relieved. Bottom line, God made things very fair! Things that work have side effects period. There is no wonderful magic in the world...If you go down a huge
Mountain you certainly will have to climb up the other side at some point... Been on Xtampza for 4 months and I can barely work... On the OxyContin I was 100x better! Sorry I strongly disagree with you...Good luck To you!

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Did you take this medication with food? It doesn't work to well unless you take it with food. I found a meal with a high fat content works best.

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The delivery is supposed to be slow. It's not an immediate release medicine, that's what the ER ( extended release ) means. Slow and gradual. Only IR ( immediate release ) is going to give a quick delivery.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

Here's the deal, my opinion - Pharma wouldn't change original formulation until their 7 year patent ran out, even though they had the "recipe" long before patent expiration. As my Drill Sargent was fond of saying "y'all ain't gotta be no rock science" (translation is rocket scientist), to figure it out... $$$$$$$$. No law firm will touch this issue on our behalf. Even if we were able to get some form of litigation together, how many of us would fear some type of retribution from our health insurance providers or doctors? I know it may sound paranoid, but who else fears being screwed even further by speaking out about this? I can only wish for these greedy bastards to "walk a mile" in our shared misery, let's say a never-ending mile. The saying "I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy" -Screw them!! We all know they've got the money & power to be able to sidestep (exactly like the politicians) the laws of this country.

I've got more surgeries to look forward to. What will happen to us next week, month, or a year from now? In my state, guess who has a vested interest in the medical marijuana industry? For a fact, anesthesiologists, cops (no bulls***). Here, as elsewhere in the country, anesthesiologists (highest paid specialty in medicine) are our pain management "professionals". The Hippocratic Oath should be redesignated as the "Hippocritic Oath". So far I've been fortunate enough to have my Primary Care doc here to help me. I've been with him since before this clusterbomb went nuclear. Oops, look at the time!!! Time to abuse my meds! I mean take my Doctor approved medication on schedule, in the proper dose. As in the movie Blues Brothers, Elwood says to Jake, "May the Lord of Blessed Acceleration Be With Us Now", just before being chased by "Rollers". Ironic, I just now realized that John Belushi died from an overdose. This is the country I joined the Service to defend, "the incompetence of the VA being a totally different, although related subject" I'm not going to delve into at this point in time. It's nice to relate to others in my position, as sad as things are, rather than having my loving wife listen to more of my rage.

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More people die every year from diabetes, heart disease, and cancer than from opioid deaths. From my research, to date I'm sure that there are many other types of comparisons that can be made. How about someone else come up with some stats on how many of those were from legally prescribed meds to the patients that they were prescribed to Vs. illicit drugs or if the person had been using unprescribed meds to try to get more relief after having had their "medical professionals" cut them off, while still in pain verified by other Doctors, diagnostics/evaluations by mental health professionals. I've got unfortunately more time on my hands from my last surgery a month ago to further follow up on while waiting to recuperate for the next of at least 2 more surgical procedures to look forward to. I know of one individual, personally, that couldn't handle the pain. The begging & fighting between his Doctors and on verge of losing everything after being cut off from his medications by his insurance company. He took what he felt would be the final end to his pain, suicide. It totally destroyed his family and friends as well. As selfish as I can only imagine he felt, he ran out of options. He was a good husband, father to his children, and friend. It bothers me to my core to have to share this at all. I know that there are plenty of junkies out there who blew all their bridges "chasing the Dragon". He wasn't one of them, he couldn't bear for his loved ones to go through it anymore. I don't recall too many eulogies putting that heartwrenching stuff into the obituaries of the people they Loved in Life, and lost them. Unfortunately, he is now just another number to these statistics that will only continue to rise. Very Sincerely. Just one more statistic to open the eyes of "those people" running our pitiful healthcare system. What stigma is left behind for the poor families and friends that they have left behind. Congratulations to our state reps right up to the FDA & DEA for protecting those most dearest to us. Are they just too stupid or just do not care about we the little people who still have the luxury of friends and family to stand by us through all of this?

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I was on oxycontin 80 milligram twice a day now I'm taking xtampza 36mg 4 x a day. Oxycotin works better. Been on it for over 18 years with no back or hip issues and now its back. The xtampza makes me relaxed. Oxycotin does the job.

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How long has the xtampza been out i just got them wanted more information please

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Did you take this medication with food? It doesn't work to well unless you take it with food. I found a meal with a high fat content works best. I have different issues with this medication. It caused anxiety and depression. It controlled my pain. Pain control was wonderful on 18mg taken 3 times per day. Had some issues with withdrawal symptoms, but that has ended. I learned about the importance of eating with this medication from the info sheets included with the medication.

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Re: Verwon (# 1) Expand Referenced Message

I have used Xtamza since it came out and have been in the health care field, specifically pharmaceuticals about 35 years. I do know a little about pharmacology and half life. Oxycontin is NOT a twice a day medication, never will be. It's half life is too short. But because it is an opioid, that's what we're stuck with. Xtamza has a half life of a little over 10 hours where Oxycontin is 4-6. It lasts much longer, is fairly gentle, and have been very satisfied with the pain relief. The problem is you have to take an IR medication for immediate relief. It takes several hours to reach peak blood levels and doesn't relieve tough severe pain straight away, if at all. It keeps the blood levels up so it does help and you can tell when it is wearing off. The problem is the next dose takes a while and there are gaps where you need an IR complement. Hope this helps.

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Re: Dan (# 16) Expand Referenced Message

I agree. I took morphine at 100mg 3xday for years. I have cerebral palsy w/spina bifida, multiple sclerosis and Lupus. When I was on that amount I could manage my dose depending on my pain, I rarely took more than 200mg. I worked as a public law paralegal, did my own housework, gardened. rode my horse etc. Now after being "cut-off" for years after the FDA quidelines that frightened all the dr.'s and insurance companies, I only get 15 mg.s 3x a day. I don't even feel it. They tried to put me on methadone, which is a very dangerous drug, and tramadol which does nothing, and I refused. They wanted to do spinal blocks. I can't do that due to an autoimmune blood clotting disorder for which I have to take warfarin. They have tried to replace morphine and like drugs with methadone and others that are dangerous and don't work as well. All to appease the FDA and DEA. I am 64 and they say they don't want me to be a drug addict. How ridiculous. My time is limited due to my diseases which have cased permanent organ damage. Taking too much anti-inflammatories because I couldn't get morphine has caused kidney failure. The other "neuroleptics" and drugs that are supposed to help pain have terrible side-effects and don't work well for my diseases. I have been through all of them. We need to get the govt. out of our pain control. Every person should be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. We aren't gutter hypes. Pain kills.

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To the makers of XTAMPZA ER, the new opiate deterrant pain medication recommended by my pain control doctor *KENDALL HANSEN MD. Founder of INTERVENTIONAL PAIN SPECIALIST of CRESTVIEW HILLS KY. Xtampza ER is wonderful. I was prescribed oxycontin 30s for a miserable chronic pre-existing back and spinal conditions. Also I have an Astrocytoma (probably spelled that wrong as well, sorry) in my right frontal lobe a miserable painful brain tumor causing excruciating migraines.I also was diagnosed with epilepsy (severe extreme grandma seizures) which can cause painful migraines b4 and after a seizure! When DR. HANSEN is performing his back and or spinal shots with his ultrasounds guidance and his knowledgeable medical background, I feel extremely safe and comfortable during my shots i know I'm in very safe hands on his table that even if a seizure was to happen during a procedure then Doctor HANSENS got my back (lol get it? Got my back) offered with or without sedation... lastly, a fashyodemy caused by rabidomaylsis (capartment syndrome), one day i had a severe seizure falling down my steps knocking my self unconscious). I had to have the majority of my right hip muscle removed. Spending 67 days in the ICU learning to walk again shortly after I developed MESSER. I WAS in constant pain and been on every opiate PAIN med out there. From fentanyl 100 mg. patches combined with ms contin, combined with lortab 10s for breakthrough relief! After opanas, morphine, hydromorphone, many more opiates -every single thing and, some all at once, I went to oxycontin IR back years ago and non deterrent OXYS. When opana was discontinued, i was at a loss.

Then finally my current pain control DOCTOR, KENDALL HANSEN MD. (whom btw is a most excellent doctor and started his practice) at INTERVENTIONAL PAIN SPECIALIST, 340 Thomas More PKway Crestview Hills, Ky. 41017 # (859) 957-0700, recommended Xtampza ER, considering a switch (no tapering btw), myself and DR. HANSEN decided to instantly switch from my oxycontin 80 mgs to the new Xtampza ER. After a few dosage adjustments, trial and error (as with most of us opiate, chronic pain med patients), from Fentanyl 100mg patches to opana, to oxycontin, have found the most wonderful newest pain med FOR ME, this XTAMPZA ER on the market to date! As u can well see, as many health issues i have, and serious pain issues for an abuse-deterrent med such as this Xtampza is and, has been such a blessing in my life) ty makers of XTAMPXA ER! As my review here's written i truely am shedding joy of new found relief and comfort for the 1st time in 11 years!!! I'd recommend Xtampza ER to any 1 in chronic long term pain... Hope my story helps... Good luck and give it a try y'all, extremely relieved patient with very minimal current pain to date! Also, if you're a northern ky. Resident or, near us here in northern ky. Check into KENDALL HANSEN MD. at the Interventional pain Specialist. His specialty is in any type of back pain treatments along with the 2 Phenol SI shots, the medication of XTAMPXA ER in combination AGAIN FOR ME WORKED which, may not be for everyone with chronic back pain and opiate pain meds combo was the PERFECT match!!! Ty DR. HANSEN and makers of XTAMPZA ER. Sincerely, Chad H. 36 yr. old Northern Kentucky resident.

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I need to disagree with you saying this is a scam. Not doubting your tolerance is high, but I have been taking opiates for nearly as long but not as much, about 80 mg a day nearly a decade. Anyways Xtampza hope I said it correctly, has replaced my 20mg oxycontin prescription and I can honestly say it kicked my ass. It is WAY MORE POWERFUL. Honestly. Now I take half of one and it feels 3 x the strength as my older oxys. Just saying, they work, and xtampa is strong as all hell. Maybe your tolerance is e tremly to realize how strong and long lasting they are. Honest one 18 mg xtampa kicked my ass for nearly 5 hours. Thanks.

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Hello Lynx. I was on oxycodone, 4x 15mg daily for 19 years and was switched over to this medication under protest due to not being able to acquire it in my area. Xtampza ER 27mg. BID for me, gives no relief whatsoever, when I mentioned the fact that even Walmart and Walgreens can't get it, he told me "Tough S*it", that's what you get so don't ask for your old meds again. I'm in the process of finding another pain management group, but my current 'pain infliction group' will NOT receive my medical records from ANY physician, not even my spine surgeon! My lumbar and cervical regions in my back are crushed - the damage covers the entire regions mentioned - so you can imagine my level of pain. I can't eat but once a day due to the pain, so high fat foods are something I don't do much. Those foods normally make me physically sick as well, so I try to avoid them. I've taken two Xtampza ER 27mg at 4-hour intervals and 0 results. I think they're absolute junk and believe the Drs. are getting a kickback of some kind from Patheon Pharmaceuticals.

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bi lateraltkr delaudid did work but only at 12 mg evry 4 hours.pain management people said hell no too much..take this xtanza13.5 mg twice a day..get the same effect if took baby asperin..ABSOLutely no pain help

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Re: Really agitadated right shoulder Oxycontin guy (# 37) Expand Referenced Message

You are absolutely right! I wish I had my orthopedic dr... we were close for 21 years and I had to see my primary dr about all the strange things going on and my orthopedic dr warned me he was afraid I'd be sent to pain management and be screwed over in a web of deceit! He was right! I thought he was going to retire so I figured I guess I should go, big mistake! My orthopedic dr wrote out any pain meds needed but he switched out and checked on me every 3 months and he even took care of antibiotics so I should have stayed with him! He was an army dr in Vietnam then was head of surgery at our hospital for years. He told me how bad things were getting but I had to listen to my primary dr about cancer they thought I had causing pain, so I was sent to pain management. I often wonder if they trade you out too, lol. I had no idea those places existed! And the stupid contract! I often wonder if I should tell my orthopedic dr my situation since he practically saw me grow up in his office! Off that subject! so what do you really think is going on? I mean legalizing marijuana then all of a sudden deciding opiates are killing us and I'd love to see their real reports on overdoses because like I said before, whenever I worked in the lab I only saw overdoses with mixed illicit drugs. So I don't see how they can claim it's prescription drugs given to legit patients! And wouldn't pharmaceutical companies want to make money? It's like maybe they are creating a more expensive addictive drug??? Idk but it's bs and I guess one has to be held hostage to keep their meds! It's confusing!

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