Dilemma With 2 Narcotic Scripts From 2 Doctors (Page 2)
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Hi all. I have intractable pelvic RSD, peripheral neuropathy, lumbar facet spondylosis. I live in California and am about to have to change insurances at the end of this month. The new insurance has ridiculously high Rx prices. I go to a PM for all my pain meds, but my primary dr has in the past managed them for me. My question is if anyone knows if I get an Rx for the 60mg Oxycontin twice a day like usual from my PM and then my primary to write a script for 40mg 3 times a day and then I can go to 2 totally different pharmacies and fill one with my insurance and the other at another pharmacy and pay with cash, will that flag the DEA and cause my PM to get a notification of "Doctor shopping"? I am just trying to have enough meds to get me through an extra month until my husbands new job let's us get medical coverage?

I had to do this one other time a year ago when the same thing happened with me loosing my job because I could no longer work and I wasn't married yet to get my husbands insurance. The first 2 months I had no problem, but the third and LAST month I was needing to do it to get me enough meds to last me the 3 month waiting period, my husband forgot and filled both scripts under the same insurance but just at 2 different pharmacies instead of paying cash at the second one. My pain doctor found this out and thank God I was able to explain my way out of it and he didn't discharge me as a patient, but now in this situation again, I'm afraid to try it one last time til we are settled with yet another health insurance. I would really appreciate anyone's advise or experience they could share regarding my situation. I truly am not a doctor shopper, I am just afraid to run out of meds and be in massive pain and / or risk getting into trouble.

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I was getting two scripts for Xanax for years. I was caught by the pharmacy I think then one of my doctors also knew then refused to be my doctor. I've been sick for a year, basically bed ridden. I'm no better at all. Should I go see my other doctor or does he already know. What should I do?

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This is not true I got caught filling oxycodone 10mg and oxycodone 15mg from my PM and then the other from my DO DR and after 2 times pharmacist called the one dr which call the other Dr. so if they are 2 different strengths they will still find out...

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Joe, it is doubtful the pharmacist will still call your doctor. But, any pharmacist you take your Tylenol # 4 prescription to will look up your profile on your states Prescription Monitoring Program see that you got a prescription filled from your regular doctor for another opiate. Your doctors will also look you up and see what prescriptions you have gotten filled for opiates and what doctors wrote them. It is up to each doctor if they want to prescribe or continue prescribing you opiates. You could be flagged as a Doctor Shopper and it would be hard if not impossible to find a doctor to write you a prescription for any opiates

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If I get Tylenol 4 from a specialist and my primary dr gives me Loran 5 I went to fill my notch the pharmacist said he would have to contact my dr I took my script back and left can the pharmacist still call my dr

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Absolute do not do that they can track n e medics u fill even in diff states

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Fill one at a regler pharmacy with your insurance and then find a mom-and-pop store to fill the other one with cash one that has no idea that you even have insurance and then you should be able to do it that's what I do it always works.

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I fill bad for you because soboxone does absolutely nothing for pain,it's just to help get people of drugs but it usually dont work because they get addicted to the soboxone's. It's a loose loose,beleive me I no what I'm taking about,I've been hooked on pill for 18 years and I take between 55 to 70 pills a day and would give anything to have the opportunity to get off them, unfortunately I don't have insurance so rehabs don't really want to help me. But there's not much about pain meds I don't no.

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I had it happen to me to with 30 percocet 10's, my wife had surgery and they called them down to the pharmacy in the hospital and gave me the hand written one so then I went to the pharmacy and they didn't ask for it so I just took it to a different pharmacy and filled it too, BUT that was before they had that PMP. Now they know everything no matter where you go or what you have. F****n Dr's have to play detective now. I think it breaks doctor patient confidentiality rules...

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When a Dr runs a PMP on a patient can the Dr only see that state he or she works in or can they see all states,even if it 900 miles away?

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Ginger, BL is right! Don't pick up that 2nd opiate prescription. 2 different doctors, 2 different pharmacies for schedule ll opiates = doctor shopping. In my state you could be arrested for doctor shopping. It's a 3rd degree felony.
You definitely need to get on top of this and talk to both doctors before the state prescription monitoring program flags you. Be upfront ASAP!
There's a digital record of this, so it won't go away.
If you do or say nothing you're just rolling the dice!
I hope there's a good outcome for you...

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Ginger, don't pick up the other prescription for pain meds. Be sure both doctors know you are seeing the other one and what they are each prescribing you. Even though they can see what pain meds another doctor has prescribed you, being honest with your doctors may increase your creditability. You have no reason to have two pain management doctors.

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My insurance does not pay for one that's why I had to pay for out of pocket that script came from my PM the other scripts was the same as I always get every two month through a pain doc in a hospital and the script was send down to the pharmacy along with another script so what do I do with the hospital medication that I don't need any more

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GINGER , it does not matter if a different pharmacy fills your prescriptions or if you pay cash or use insurance. Every pharmacy in your state has to report all of your Schedule II prescriptioins to your States Prescriptioin Mointoring Program. Your doctor can look you up and see what prescription you have gotten filled, what doctor wrote them, how many doses it was for and often how you paid for the prescription. Paying cash for a prescription when you have insurance that covers it is a red flag for Doctor Shopping. The time frame this information has to be turned in varies by state. It sounds like the information has not been turned into the database yet.

If you signed a Pain Contract with either or both doctors, you will be dismissed. You will also find it difficult, if not impossible to find another doctor that will treat your pain.

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I HAVE A PAIN DOCTOR THAT DON'T PRESCRIBE OXYCODONE BUT GIVE NORC I RECENTLY FOUND A PM DOCTOR THAT GAVE ME THE OXYCODONE THAT I FILLED AND PAID CASH FOR AT A WALGREEN AND A WEEK LATER I WHEN TO GET MY PAIN INJECTION AND MY PAIN DOCTOR GAVE ME THE NORC TO BE THAT WHERE FILL AT THERE PHRAMCAY THAT BILLS MY MEDICAL INSURANCE IF I PICK THAT SCRIB UP THAT MY INSURANCE PAID FOR AT A DIFFERENT PLACE FROM THE PHARAMCY I PAID CASH FOR WILL I GET IN TROUBLE OR WILL THEY KNOW IF SO I WILL NOT PICK THAT SCRIB UP BUT CAN I STILL GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE IT WAS FILLED IN MY NAME

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Tam, you won't be able to get a job doing what you were doing. You may or may not be criminally prosecuted. You obtained a controlled subtance illegally. The dentist may also get into some trouble with the state medical board if it was his job to supervise you.

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Sorry to tell you this Tam, but yes it's a third degree felony in most states. It's the same thing as script forgery.

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Hi, I just lost my job becasue the dentist I worked for has let me call in pain meds for myself in the past, and now after saying yes, and it was called in and the pharmacy called asking a question, the dentist said that they didn't give permission. Can they bring charges against me since they let me go? I am a nervous wreck about this and I am trying to find another job, and hate this hanging over my head

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Listen. i live in pa and have been going to a pain clinic and the same dr. for 2yrs. i was never late for an appt. my pill count was always correct and my urine was always good. i take oxymorphone for pain for my back. i cannot get out of bed without my medication. i became disabled in
1997.Im 62. Well one night i took a back road home and got a flat tire and didnt have a spare. no one would come and help me. it was 10:30pm. i was 6 miles from home. so i left my purse with my medication and a pizza i had bought in the car and started to walk home. my futurr brother in law and father inn law finally decided they would help me. by then it was 12:30am and i had already walked a mile or so and was sitting at a church waiting for them. where i live there are hardly no people just wilderness. when we got back to the car we found the window smashed in. and my purse was stolen. all my money my medication and id they stole. but they left the pizza. i called the police and filed a report. i also went down in person and told my pain dr that my medication was stolen and that i had called the police. my dr. talked to the police too. also i had signed a contract when i first went to the pain clinic. it states the dr. Would fill your medication once per year if it was lost or stolen if you filed a police report. just letting you know i did everything correctly, but i was still discharged for not keeping my medication safe!! Well, i thought it would be safer to let my purse with my money and my medication in the car then to walk late at night with it!! Im not a drug seeker. i dont shop. i did everything right and i was still discharged. so now i have unbareable pain again and my life is unbareable everyday because of the pain. i just wanted to share that you can do everything right and still be discharged by your doctor in pennsylvania!!

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Wizzy, if it is not time for you to be out of your other prescriptions, it is doubtful a pharmacist will fill the new ones. Also when you go back to the doctor that wrote the
roxy 30 and 2 milligram Xanax, he will see that you have gotten the Subutex and 1 milligram Xanax from another doctor and won't write you any more prescriptioins for pain meds. It doesn't matter what pharmacy you go to. They all have to send in info to the state Prescription Monitoring Program, PMP keeps track of the prescriptions patients get filled in their state and usually in neighboring states.

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I get roxy 30 and 2 milligram Xanax from one dr and had it stolen so i went and go Subutex and 1 milligram Xanax from another doctor. I was wondering if I went to a mom-and-pop shop to get it filled would I be flagged

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