Sublocade - A New Kind Of SuboxoneUpdated
So there's a new kind of SUBOXONE out and it's called SUBLOCADE. It's a once a month injection done by a medical professional that lasts ALL month. So no more having to take it sublingually (under the tongue) daily anymore. I just found out about this last week and was wanting anyone's input about it. I don't know how I feel about it. What if it doesn't work ALL month and on week 3 you start feeling like s***? Can you go back to the doctor and get another shot or will they just give you a couple sublingual suboxone to make it through till the next week? I guess it's a pretty big dissolvable thing that slowly releases about 2mg a day into your bloodstream. Once again, I'm not sure how i feel about that. What if something happens and it ALL gets released at once? I'm sure that's bound to happen once every so often. Do please write back letting me know how you guys feel about this, or if you have any new info that I'm leaving out. Thank you.
From where we can get this medicine in Pakistan? I am using inj kinz from past two years, I want to get rid of this medicine (inj kinz).
Re: Asad (# 1)
I don't know what ink jinz is? And where in Pakistan can you get it but im sorry I have no idea. I live in the United States Florida to b exact. I use the SUBOXONE every once in awhile I preference the subutex the one without the naloxone. Can you elaborate on what (ink jize) is please. Is that what you guys over there call sublingual suboxone? No offence but I did not know you guys had treatments like that over there. Please no offence i'm not up on my Pakistan drug laws or treatment options, please enlighten me thank you.
Re: Asad (# 1)
 Nalbuphine Details
When such combined therapy is contemplated, the dose of one or both agents should be reduced. In addition to the relief of pain, the drug has been studied as a treatment for morphine induced pruritus (itching). Pruritus is a common side effect of morphine or other pure mu agonist opioid administration. Kjellberg et al.
Re: Diana (# 3)
What are you saying and are you talking about? What does it have to do with sublockade?
I honestly think you’d be feeling sick in a couple days or a week unless you're on 2mg a day. I'm having huge issues daily for 7 months now. Headaches, joint pain, flu like symptoms, confusion, cold nose hands feet and ears, hands also go numb, erratic heartbeat, cold chills. Sometimes eating high sodium food all symptoms go away for little while or minutes. I feel my nose warm up without other symptoms. I had been suboxone on for years, went from generic tabs to films thinking I’d be better and I’m not. Does anyone or do you know anyone that’s had those issues or anything that can help?
Hi Yall, Remember when they came out with the Fentanyl Patches? Remember How they were leaking all out at one time?
Hi all, I never thought Fentanyl ever worked anyway.
I don't think I would change. All of these new medications you don't ever know how they're going to work for at least 6 months to a year. I would stay on the Suboxone.
Re: El cano (# 5)
Sorry to hear you are having those issue's, and no I've never heard of any of my friends or myself that had those weird problems. Especially after a year or 7 months after taking suboxone strips or tabs. May I ask what you were taking before the suboxone? Was it hardcore or just hydrocodone? I know when I run out of my opana's or (oxymorphone 30ngs) and start subs for a couple days to a week the first 4 days are the toughest. I mean like straight hell I dread taking them I hate the taste(strips) I get super depressed, migraines, diarrhea, zero energy, and everything smells funny and tastes weird, aches and pains all over feels like the super flu it sucks. Have you tried subutex? I like those a lot better. But back to this new drug Sublocade, I just don't trust it. But who knows it might be great, can't knock it till I try it. Plus I don't know what milligram it comes in and I don't know how fast it starts to make you feel better or get into your system. Seeing that its administered straight into your veins it should work pretty fast.
Re: RAWDOG (# 9)
I was clean for 1.5 years and wrecked my back. I was passing a kidney stone so I got prescribed 5mg perks for a month. I got scared I’d jump back my old habit of H/Perk 30s. I should’ve done a vivatrol shot but i was nervous and jumped the gun so for the 1st 6 months @ 16mg then cvs and pharmacies ran out of generic 8mg Suboxone pills. By then I was @ 4mg 6 month mark so like i said cvs ran out. I used the 2mgs but with the 2mg I couldn’t maintain feeling normal and needed 6mg, so when the 8mg came back 40 days later he put me back on those. I couldn’t fell normal at 4/6mg. I was feeling like the flu, back pain, fatigue, erratic heart beat, cold sweat. My nose, hands, ears and feet would get super cold. I was trying to stay @8mg but it wasn’t happening so he started bringing me back up, now @16mg. I fought for films thinking they would work better and I’d be able to get back to 4mg then 2mg so one year later I still feel like s*** on subutex for a week now. I bounce between 8mg-16mg depends if I’m super busy and still feeling like s*** with symptoms going away briefly for hours at a time. I don’t know what it is and an allergist can’t analyze suboxone but it’s weird cuz I have the same symptoms but 60% less. I want off and can’t afford to take time off from work at all. I’ve lost weight and can’t lift weights anymore. I’ve pushed but symptoms got worse, so for 3 years I’ve lifted and went for 256lbs 6 months into now these last 6 month @208lbs. 1 year total of Suboxone without taking any kind of drugs, all clean U/A's as I go weekly. So sorry I hope this makes sense. Please don’t bash me, I’m in a brain fog with this med. I want off completely. Also, my sub dr that I complained to for the last 6 months says it’s withdrawals, so I looked up my symptoms online and what I have are severe side effects, but he says they’re not, it’s withdrawals.
Re: El cano (# 5)
NO I WOULD NOT TAKE A MONTHLY SHOT
(In reference to the question posted) I think after a few days u would feel like you need more. I was on subutex for 4 years my doctor retired, I went to a new doctor he only gave Suboxane films. I took the films for 4 months after being on subutex for 4 years and I felt a huge difference. On the film I felt worse I took 2 a day but felt like I needed 4 a day just to have the normal feeling. On subutex I can take half in the morning and half in the afternoon and be great! I am now on subutex it's been 2 years I have been on subutex for 6 years now with the exception of the 4 month strip. I felt tired on the film I craved more, I thought about it all the time while on strip. I have to say for me my opinion there is a big difference in taking the two. I prefer subutex. Now after being on subutex for so long, it's a daily routine, I also feel tired more often, less happy go lucky like I use to but it's not as bad as the way I felt on strips. I used to have more energy, more desire to go to work, clean, etc. Now after so long I'm just wore out, I want to stop. I miss the feeling I had 5 years ago of loving to go to work, jump up split second and go swimming, dancing, etc. Hope this helps and makes sense
Started sublocade today after 4 years of suboxone 8/2. So far so good. Seems like the sublocade may be stronger cause I'm feeling super tired. Only downside is there is a hard lump under my skin which is like a knot. That's the sublocade in the knot. So far so good
Re: Jon (# 12)
Hey I was wondering what Mg. does the sublocde come in? And since you been on suboxone for so long before this what made you change your mind to want to switch to this injection? How long is it supposed to last and how expensive was it? Did your insurance cover it? And why are you thinking it's stronger how is it dosed into your bloodstream?? Please get back to me I'm VERY interested to hear from you again Thanx
Re: Rawdog (# 13)
Sublocade comes in 2 strengths for inj. at your Docs office. 1st 2 shots are 300 mg subcutaneous in abdominal area just like an insulin shot... After 1 st 2 doses of 300 mg, you and your Doc decide to continue with either 300mg, or decrease to the 100 mg strength... How long does it last? 30 days and then you return for the next shot. So 30 days between shots. In all studies not one person complained of having any withdrawal even after 60 days had passed since their last shot and some people actually said they were still comfortable after 4-5 months had passed. I have 1 patient whom has received the shot and they feel great at 3 weeks so far!! (If you are curious they were on 16 mg suboxone daily prior to getting the shot).. It appears to be covered under most commercial insurance but not medicaid or medicare. Patient also said it was so awesome to go out of town on a 4 day trip and not worry about taking anything. Best wishes to you, hope this helps!
Re: Addxn Doc (# 14)
Thank you for your reply and great info!! I have Florida Blue Cross HMO so EVERYTHING has to be pre-authorisation!! And they don't like to do that trust me I'm trying right now to get them to cover subutex tabs 60 per month and it's gonna take awhile. While I'm thinking about it I started a thread on here about the Bridge Device do you by chance have any info on that or experience with that, that you could share. I've been in Pain management for 15yrs and trying to actually have a life and family at age 40 now so I'm hoping for the best. Thanx again for your info I might look into that after 6 months of trying these subutex. By the way suboxone gives me a headache
Re: Rawdog (# 15)
Sadly, I have no experience with my pets using the Bridge Device. It does seem to have some utility for lessening opiate withdrawal. Most of my pts are on MAT and about 10- 20% transition off successfully when they are ready with some encouragement, counseling & coping skills living drug free. Sublocade has no naloxone so shouldn't cause that type of headache. Sublocade also has a copay assistance program where the manufacturer contacts your insurance company directly so they will do all the insurance footwork for you & your physician. That is a great thing and makes it easier for both of you. Your Doc just needs you to sign the authorization form allowing them to do the footwork. You will most definitely want to be stable on whichever form of buprenorphine you are prescribed before switching over to sublocade. Good Luck to you & Best wishes in your recovery!
Re: RAWDOG (# 9)
NEVER TRUST NEW DRUGS! Not me and not in this lifetime. If a Dr has proof that a patient is in pain then give them something for pain. If you have no proof that a patient is in pain then refer them to whatever specialist that makes sense. But when they say the word pain the Dr should not say " I cannot give anything for pain" which he can if he wants. To addiction is a scam for money for most "addicts" so use common sense Dr. Ty for reading my message.
I recently received my 1st injection of Sublocade 300 mg. DONT DO IT. 4 days later the withdrawal symptoms began in waves. When I called the dr he is treating me like I am lying and refuses to do anything. So I will suffer all month in withdrawal. it was a horrible mistake. Lying drs out to make a buck.
Re: Kc (# 18)
Sad to hear this Kc! If this is true it really should be reported to the manufacturer as an adverse reaction to the drug. Can you feel a small lump where the shot was given? It should be releasing slowly over the month from where the small bump is where the medication is deposited. Best wishes to you.
Re: Kc (# 18)
WOW!!!! So sorry to hear that, that's BULLS***. I'd march down there and demand him to do something. So what's the cost of the injection, where is it put, what does it look like, how big is it? And did he mention it might not work? And how many times has he given out the shot? If he DOESN'T have a reference point then how can he say that ya know?
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Re: Rawdog (# 20)
Each Injection is $1800…insurance covers what they cover and then there is a copay assistance program through sublocade manufacturer for up to $800 per injection after insurance. You do not get copay assistance if you are on any government or state assistance program. Must be private health insurance to get the copay. Government assistance most likely will cover the whole thing. When big pharma was sued for billions and lost those billions of dollars should be going in to getting these shots for people!!!!!
Re: Kc (# 18)
Can you give me an update on how this ended up?
Re: Paul (# 6)
Sublocade is not a patch. It is an injection that gels up on contact with your body fluids. Then the gel slowly wats away at so many nano grams per second.
Re: El cano (# 5)
This forum is suppose to be about sublocade….
Re: RAWDOG (# 2)
He didn’t say ink jiz…he said injectable kinz….its given to women in labor and they use it like subtext in other country’s.
Re: Kc (# 18)
There were no withdrawals after 4 days, it was your mental state. During Subs, everyday is a habitual and continuance treat in our lives. It is a crutch and becomes a lifeline to our existence. Think back, every waking second of each day revolves around these damn films. The appointment day is like Christmas Day each month. Once we you have the script then the fun begins. Time to hold your breathe at the Pharmacy and pray they have them in. Pray they don’t tell you it is too early to refill. Your mind starts to go in panic mode driving to the Pharmacy. You know that every appointment day, you are out. You have to get it filled. You start preparing excuses to why you need this filled today and I’m not taking no for an answer. You start getting pissed. Who in the hell does a Pharmacist think he/she is to override my Dr’s orders! I did that crap for 10 years of my life until I said to myself,, This is recovery!?
Subs do little to change the previous lifestyle we wanted to escape.
The toughest part of Sublocade is the fun above that I mentioned is all over.
Re: El cano (# 5)
Hey. I know this response was from a while back, but I am experiencing the exact same side effects. Have you managed to overcome them? I was thinking it may be due to a naloxone allergy and was going to ask my doc to switch me to bup only.
Re: Elle07 (# 38)
You have to be on at least 8mg daily to qualify for the shot... this could change over time because we are always learning in medicine, but currently you have to be on 8-24mg of suboxone daily for the shot. Since it comes in 300mg and 100mg doses, (after the first 2 months you get 100mg) in the studies that was what showed to keep people at the therapeutic level all month. My doctor says after a few months he will start injecting less and/or space the shots out to every 5 or 6 weeks. More research and time is needed for the med company to change their dosing guidelines, but the doctors can do things based on their experience with what works in the mean time.
Re: Kimberly 123 (# 26)
It burns for a few seconds.. think it is a liquid being forced in between fat that quickly hardens.. so it burns a few seconds and the area is tender after to touch (but you shouldn't be touching it anyway!) It's less painful than a tattoo... and its literally super quick! Worth the 15 seconds of pain each month for a chance at life long sobriety! :)
Re: jainnpain (# 17)
Well Sublocade isn't so "new" anymore... its been 4 years since your post... I hope people are seeing how beneficial it has been. For people with opiod substance abuse disorders it has been a life saver!
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