How Long After Taking Kratom Can You Take Suboxone (Page 3)
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Hi I have been on suboxone for four weeks, before that I was on methadone for five years. I decided to try kratom to stop the suboxone but it isn't really doing much and I feel really lethargic and headaches. I took about 4-5gram of kratom at 8am, it's now 1:40pm"..I want to take some suboxone, will I get sick? Precipitated withdrawals? I've seen some people say they take suboxone after kratom and are fine, but, there isn't much out there on the topic. I just don't wanna get sick for I have a three ur old boy and Christmas is in two days

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Re: Joel (# 12)

You need to stop the H bro or all of your plans will fail. As a user for over 20 yrs and now clean for the past 6, if you're still taking H you really need to start your road to sobriety by quitting that first. Mixing all these medications without knowledge of possible interactions is a death wish and you sound as if you are still very interested in getting a better high. Your hypothesis will be null as the H isn't part of what people are asking about. If you do take H before trying out Suboxone with Kratom to report the results, your info will be invalid as H is a component of the original question. Look up the scientific method to learn about basic research procedures, so you can report your results in a way everybody can understand. Lots of good info!!!

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Hello Emily, hope your ok. Not real educated on kratom, but just to state a fact it has opiate properties. I've read that it takes 4 to 6 hours for the effects to wear off, so just to be safe I would at least wait the 6 to 6 and a half hours before I'd try it. Nobody wants a case of the precipitated withdrawals. It would be nice to have some actual clinical trials on kratom. I've heard it's a very versatile substance. God bless and good luck.

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Suboxone kicks the opiate off of your mu receptors. Kratom does not bind with my receptors. I have been running out of subs early every month. Normally a week early. I tried Kratom for the first time 3 months ago. It is more of a phsycological fix kinda like a placebo. It helps withdrawal symptoms in the morning with the first dose and it will help your apitite and sleep and chills but at night it seems not to help so much. It's l8le the first high of the day. You can really feel the first high of the day but the rest aren't as good. You won't go through precipitated withdrawal using kratom and subs together. I have been using them together for months now.The energy boost from the Kratom works nice with the subs. The only way you can get precipitated withdrawal using subs is you have to be addicted to a substance to the point that you suffer without them. If you don't suffer withdrawal during periods of abstinence you can't get precipitated withdrawal. Being said. If you aren't addicted to kratom how can you withdrawal from it. Understand?

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Just took 2 mg of Suboxone after dosing Kratom for 3 days. My last dose of K was 3 hours ago. Wish me luck!

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Re: Emily (# 1)

Also, confirm it's safe. My rule of thumb is if I dont feel the "kratom" buzz or something resembling that, then my assumption is that the sub "out-bonded" (one can say) the kratom. Or my stuff is bunk...unlikely.

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

Naloxone is an opioid blocker but is ONLY activated by IV administration. It is not absorbed (or activated) when taken orally. It was added in the US to prevent IV use of Suboxone.

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Re: BluntTruth (# 11)

4sure! I'm gonna try it myself tonight/tomorrow so I will be able to answer. Will do my last H in a bit then dose on kratom after about 10-12 hours then the sub 6-8 hours after that. Hopefully I don't go into PW or some crazy stuff. I will be able to answer based on my experience.

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Worse...look and I've noticed no one understands or answers the question right...It is "can you take sub with kratom in your system?" I just took kratom 2 hrs ago and i'm willing to bet if i take a sub i will get WDs but no one has answered this question yet. If you aren't ahead don't comment b/c you're giving bad advice if you don't have personal experience.

8 am kratom dose it is out of your system if you took the sub at 2:30 pm ... that is, you were fine but i have yet to see anyone say they took kratom. It wasn't working so they took suboxone, not subutex, an hour later.. Of course subutex is, fine it doesn't have the blocker naloxone in it. I seen one person on another forum say naloxone was just to make sure you couldn't break the suboxone pill down and do anything with it like abuse it.... Well that is bs. I take suboxone every day just about, and the naloxone is so you cant abuse anything else, like you won't feel, it so what is the point... That is what naloxone/blocker does....

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I have been using kratom everyday for about four months and stoped could turkey for three days , but today I took 2 mg of suboxon and planned on just doing 2 mg for three more. Day will this help? Or make it worse

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Hey, twodogs...
Just wondering how it's going with taking the Kristi and Suboxone. I am considering trying Kratom for the first time. I also am on 4mg of Suboxone a day. I do not want to get sick of U mix the two of them. So, just wanted Ted to check in with you and how your experience has been since March? Any advice would be so appreciated.

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Too risky for what
You said switching from kratom to sub would be too risky and cannabis is better. What did you mean it's too risky. What is

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I have been on 8 milligram Suboxone for 4 month and taking Kratom with it I have no ill effects except for you need a lot larger dose of the kraton to feel relief from pain

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I take kratom with suboxone and I just started suboxone... Just to try it n see if helpful but I like kratom more for opiate detox I've been doing really good just get the kratom dose right and you'll be golden pony boy! Ps- if u haven't tried the 8mL kratom extract you should, way better than any other form except the tea. May the Creator Bless you and ST. Michael Protect you in your Battle.

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Kratom is a relatively new drug in the US and Europe. It is the popular name for a tree and the drug comes from its leaves. It is often used as an anti-diarrheal medicine and a painkiller but has other uses as well. Kratom is heavily promoted as a legal, safe drug that can be used to come off stronger drugs.

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Glad to hear that you're doing well Emily... I agree with Woody's comment on the lack of feedback, possibly due to the unregulated nature of kratom and how it interacts with pharmaceuticals. However, one thing I can say from personal experience with kratom is that if you took it at 8am it would've at least been on it's tail end of "working" 6 hours later; so odds are whatever interaction it could've had is prone to be negligible in my opinion. There's also a lot of research on PubMed relating to cannabis and pain relief, but I would actually argue that kratom is a better pain reliever by up to 50% or more in my own personal judgement/experience; so maybe synergism is the answer there? Nevertheless, it's always nice to hear about others finding success in the realm in natural alternatives.

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Emily,

It's exceedingly unhealthy to transition and bounce back and forth between these powerful medications. Kratom is fairly new in the use as an adjunct to a detoxification protocol. Although this herb/plant has been used for hundreds of years overseas praised for its cns stimulant properties, many derive benefits for many conditions including pain management. As for methadone and suboxone/subutex they can have effects for years following cessation. Protracted Withdrawal syndrome is a phenomenon where brain chemistry has a difficult time returning to a pre opiate use state. These can include headache, lethargy, fatigue and GI distress to name a few. These are just a few examples of why trained medical providers are recommended when use of opioid replacement therapy is considered. I hope this gives you some perspective into the complexity of issues that MAY be encountered when treatment commences. I wish you the best.

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It seems like no one can really answer the questions. I think cannabis is the best pain killer for a suboxone patient and ex opiate addict. The switching back and forth is too risky . Trust me

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I got no response but ended up taking 2mg suboxone at 2:30 and was fine...took another 1mg a little later and still fine...just a bit of a headache but I always get that from sunoxone

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